Comments on: NDP Doesn’t Hide Its Divisions http://rafeonline.com/2009/12/ndp-doesnt-hide-its-divisions/ Canada's Best Known Political Commentator Sun, 05 Sep 2010 18:09:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Rick http://rafeonline.com/2009/12/ndp-doesnt-hide-its-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-454 Rick Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:31:04 +0000 http://rafeonline.com/?p=392#comment-454 Oops, sorry. Left out a the word "vote", as in Carr didn't vote for it. Oops, sorry. Left out a the word “vote”, as in Carr didn’t vote for it.

]]> By: Rick http://rafeonline.com/2009/12/ndp-doesnt-hide-its-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-453 Rick Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:29:37 +0000 http://rafeonline.com/?p=392#comment-453 Yes, but I don't believe she ever had her heart in it, and she didn't for it. I ran into her at a Greendrinks quite a while after the first STV failure and she said she did not support the STV because it didn't do enough for women. Can't quite fathom how the current system does any better... Yes, but I don’t believe she ever had her heart in it, and she didn’t for it. I ran into her at a Greendrinks quite a while after the first STV failure and she said she did not support the STV because it didn’t do enough for women. Can’t quite fathom how the current system does any better…

]]> By: admin http://rafeonline.com/2009/12/ndp-doesnt-hide-its-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-451 admin Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:10:14 +0000 http://rafeonline.com/?p=392#comment-451 Actually, Rick, although Adriane Carr initially opposed STV, she changed her mind a week or so later when it turned out that just about all Green candidates in the 2005 election (myself included) were for it. I agree with you that the NDP has no credibility on electoral reform. I was appalled when I went to an all-candidates' meeting in 2009, and heard former NDP MLA Anita Hagen tell a bunch of outright lies about STV. Not only that, many of the arguments she used were equally applicable to conventional forms of proportional representation. The lesson from this is that a lot of NDP insiders don't want PR, period. Actually, Rick, although Adriane Carr initially opposed STV, she changed her mind a week or so later when it turned out that just about all Green candidates in the 2005 election (myself included) were for it.

I agree with you that the NDP has no credibility on electoral reform. I was appalled when I went to an all-candidates’ meeting in 2009, and heard former NDP MLA Anita Hagen tell a bunch of outright lies about STV. Not only that, many of the arguments she used were equally applicable to conventional forms of proportional representation. The lesson from this is that a lot of NDP insiders don’t want PR, period.

]]> By: Rick http://rafeonline.com/2009/12/ndp-doesnt-hide-its-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-450 Rick Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:35:43 +0000 http://rafeonline.com/?p=392#comment-450 Quote: "It will be tough, but there is a solution which is now probably out of reach. That would be some sort of proportional representation that takes power away from the “party” and gives it to MLAs." Actually, Carole James opposed proportional representation (the STV) when it had a sure chance of happening the first time around (just below the 60 percent threshold), as did her colleague heading the Greens at the time, Adrienne Carr. After last year's failure, any form of proportional representation is effectively dead and James and Carr both have themselves to blame. Quote:
“It will be tough, but there is a solution which is now probably out of reach. That would be some sort of proportional representation that takes power away from the “party” and gives it to MLAs.”

Actually, Carole James opposed proportional representation (the STV) when it had a sure chance of happening the first time around (just below the 60 percent threshold), as did her colleague heading the Greens at the time, Adrienne Carr. After last year’s failure, any form of proportional representation is effectively dead and James and Carr both have themselves to blame.

]]> By: Darlene http://rafeonline.com/2009/12/ndp-doesnt-hide-its-divisions/comment-page-1/#comment-430 Darlene Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:53:03 +0000 http://rafeonline.com/?p=392#comment-430 Does any one have any comments about, Alec G. Tsakumis, web site? Does any one have any comments about, Alec G. Tsakumis, web site?

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